Steve, great idea, great exercise, I’m looking forward to your thoughts. I read CVMT some time around 1995 and it got me started, for the first time in my life, reading philosophy. Great book by a great author.
John Frame is on the mark. The Bible tells us that it is the Holy Spirit who restrains sin in the world, through the presence of believers, until they are taken out of the world, not “natural law”. Jesus said the believer is the salt of the earth. It is by reason of God’s plan of redemption(special grace) that “earth, summer time and harvest” continue. There is no common grace. Though the bible talks about innate knowledge of God, without specifying its content, there is no reason to think it is anything other than what is codified in the scriptures. Since the unbeliever suppresses it, it only serves to condemn them. The two kingdoms the bible makes a distinction between is that of light and darkness not “civil” and “religious”.
January 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Steve, great idea, great exercise, I’m looking forward to your thoughts. I read CVMT some time around 1995 and it got me started, for the first time in my life, reading philosophy. Great book by a great author.
LJ
January 20, 2012 at 3:42 pm
On a related but different topic. Has anyone seen this?
http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2010VanDrunen.htm
LJ
January 21, 2012 at 6:15 am
John Frame is on the mark. The Bible tells us that it is the Holy Spirit who restrains sin in the world, through the presence of believers, until they are taken out of the world, not “natural law”. Jesus said the believer is the salt of the earth. It is by reason of God’s plan of redemption(special grace) that “earth, summer time and harvest” continue. There is no common grace. Though the bible talks about innate knowledge of God, without specifying its content, there is no reason to think it is anything other than what is codified in the scriptures. Since the unbeliever suppresses it, it only serves to condemn them. The two kingdoms the bible makes a distinction between is that of light and darkness not “civil” and “religious”.
January 21, 2012 at 11:06 am
I agree that Frame’s critique is solid. VanDrunen’s 2K theology is a joke. http://contrast2.wordpress.com/category/theology/two-kingdoms/